Oops! Yes, a cut and paste error. Now fixed. Thank-you Þóra.
(And now I'm not struggling to type under a cat:) The only knitting term I know is nupp, which the Sõnaveeb dictionary says is also used in English, for a "nobble": https://sonaveeb.ee/search/unif/dlall/dsall/nupp/1)
Edited (I was trapped under a cat!) Date: 2021-07-24 05:36 am (UTC)
I've been learning about nupps. :-D I want to say it "nuhpp," but Nancy Bush's DVD on Estonian knitting pronounces it "noop."
Most of the patterns I've been encountering have given names. Pajulehekiri is my favorite: paju-leaf-pattern, it seems to mean. Looks like weeping willow leaves to me. Anyway, I hope to pick up a little grammar from your essay!
I think "noop" would be a reasonable approximation for it! (There's a little speaker icon on the dictionary page that has a recording.)
You're right about the stitch looking like willow leaves: paju is willow, leht is leaf (lehe is the genitive/possessive form), and kiri is a pattern, so it's the "willow leaf's pattern".
Because of where and when you find names of Estonians written down, my understanding is that a lot of the records were created by people who didn't have a particularly good grasp of Estonian. So sometimes the grammar looks spot-on, but other times it's not. So I can't recommend looking at 16th century name records to get a good handle on grammar. It's only really good for figuring out naming patterns used at the time.
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Date: 2021-07-24 05:05 am (UTC)Cut and paste error, I'm guessing.
This is awesome; thank you for sharing it!
I am just learning the names of a bunch of Estonian knitting motifs; will have to give this a careful read through to see if it helps me.
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Date: 2021-07-24 05:29 am (UTC)Thank-you Þóra.
(And now I'm not struggling to type under a cat:) The only knitting term I know is nupp, which the Sõnaveeb dictionary says is also used in English, for a "nobble": https://sonaveeb.ee/search/unif/dlall/dsall/nupp/1)
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Date: 2021-07-24 06:08 am (UTC)Most of the patterns I've been encountering have given names. Pajulehekiri is my favorite: paju-leaf-pattern, it seems to mean. Looks like weeping willow leaves to me. Anyway, I hope to pick up a little grammar from your essay!
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Date: 2021-07-24 06:37 am (UTC)You're right about the stitch looking like willow leaves: paju is willow, leht is leaf (lehe is the genitive/possessive form), and kiri is a pattern, so it's the "willow leaf's pattern".
Because of where and when you find names of Estonians written down, my understanding is that a lot of the records were created by people who didn't have a particularly good grasp of Estonian. So sometimes the grammar looks spot-on, but other times it's not. So I can't recommend looking at 16th century name records to get a good handle on grammar. It's only really good for figuring out naming patterns used at the time.
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Date: 2022-05-01 10:03 am (UTC)"Die Rigaer und Revaler Familiennamen im 14. und 15. Jahrhundert"
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